How to calculate the 88 days for your Second Year Visa in Australia

Hi there hope you can help pls…
We’re working on a farm picking fruit 5-6 days a week on a piece rate agreement but so far have not able to make minimum wage rates.
Our payslips show $365 made and no tax decided for 5 days in one week worked but not how many hours we worked (40ish). Is this work going to count? Thanks for any advice!

Hello

I am 31 and actually not eligible for the second year visa as I am from Germany. But should I bother to try to fullfil anyway the farmdays in case Australia will change the age restrictions in the next year’s?

Hi
I’m working as a casual fortnightly from a Wednesday to Tuesday eg. 16/9/20-29/09/20. I am working at a Corn farm in Gingin casually but do 40hrs a week and around 80hrs fortnightly. Does my fortnight count as 14 days or only as 10 days towards my 88 days?
Also my payslip only states my worked fortnightly hours, so what if I worked 80hrs but in reality only 9 days instead of 10. No one will notice and it will be counted as 10 or 14 days is that correct?
Thanks!

Hi there,

I have worked on a wheat farm usually 5 days a week, but over harvest 7 days a week. There are 4 days in the same week where we couldn’t work because of the rain, do I need to work an extra 2 days to make up 5 total or can some of the hours from the 7 day weeks cover this?

Also, I have accrued many hours in holidays. Can I take these paid holiday days and they count as a day of specified work?
Thanks

Thank you. How will the government know the number of hours as industry standard? Do you know what it is for agriculture?

I mentioned that about paid holidays as it says on the government’s website:

“Australian public holidays and sick days (or equivalent worker’s compensation leave days) can be counted as a day of specified work if you are paid for that day.”

Do you still disagree that the paid annual leave wouldn’t count as a day of specified work?

Thanks

hi there,

my partner and I were working 5 days a week at a piece rate but the most we would ever make in a week was 300-500 based on how ripe the crops were that day to pick.
does that still count even though we weren’t making the minimum based on how low we were picking a day even though it was 8 hour days 5 days a week ?

thanks in advance

Hi I am supposed to be starting 6 months farm work next week. The job type is casual and I’ll be working 35-40 hours per week. Are my weekends included?

Hi,
If I am working 80hrs per week can this count as 14 days. Or is there any leniency towards the fact I am working so many hours?

Hey I’m currently working in a packing sheet for my 6 months. I nearly have 26 payslips but for a few weeks I worked under 35 hours. Will those weeks still count as full time since my payslips are weekly?

Hi,
I am having trouble calculating my 88 days for a second year visa. I do not have my timesheets and I am unsure how many hours are needed to count for a full day. I have worked a total of 438hrs with 18 pay slips. I thought if I divided my hours by 7 (7hr work day) that I would get the correct amount of days worked but its very confusing and I don’t want to apply for the second year without the correct amount. I used the wififarms calculator and it says I have worked 93 days, however I am unsure how accurate this is. Please help! Or is there any government number I can call for more info? Thanks!

Hi,
If I was to work 6 days a week some weeks, would that reduce my total days, and if so, by how much?
Many thanks
Jenny

Hi , I work in Regional area ( Cairns ) in the restaurant which which open only in the evening. I work about 3-4 hours / 6 day per week. Can these count for 2nd year visa ? Thank you.

Hi I’m on visa 417 from Uk to Australia
I’m working with the parson who doing a Tiling and I’m working with hem and he paying me a monthly $3500 to my account is it ok to work with hem for 3 months and also he will giving me a payslip for each month and is Accountin managing my tex and I’m working on my TFN number

I have a question regarding to my visa extension.
I‘ve worked 3 weeks with one employer but need to change it now.
So in my new job I will work 5 days (40hs), can I count the two day off‘s as well?

Any help would be much appreciate

Hey, I’m working on a 3/1 shift in the mines to get my 6 months regional work for my Nil Vac visa. It entails on the payslip a 2 day week, two 7 day weeks and a 4 day week. Does my 3 weeks each month count as a month regional done? Cheers!

Hi!
I’m applying for my second WHV and they ask me how many hours I worked.
I was working on a piece ratein agriculture for 8 to 10 hours per day depending on the farm.
What should I answer to that question?
Hoping you can help me, I wish you a good day.
Thanks,
Alessandro

Ciao!
Sto Richie de do il secondo wh ,ho payslip che contano 42 h e payslip che ne contengono 25
Nella domanda mi chiede di inserire i giorni lavorati ,come mi comport-? Quando sono segna ti piu di 35 conto l’intera settimana nelle altre che segnano 24 h come conto i gg ?

Hi, if I work with 1 employer for 1 month and move to another farm for 2 months can I still count weekends for both if I’m working full time hours 5 days a week?
Thanks

Hi ~
I was just wondering. I’m working at hotel in Cairns. I do hospitality job now.
I work 6 hours a day, and 5 days a week. But still less than 35-40 hours a week.
Could my work be counted as 7 days a week? or I have to find second job for 88days ?

Thanks !

Hello, I just started to work as a utility worker(like kitchen hand and housekeeper) in the mining site in WA, having a 2/1 roster. The thing is I am casual worker, so even if I work 3 months, i’m not sure about that it will be counted.
So when I’m casual worker in the mining site, will my 1 week off be counted for second visa?(My agency said I can get my payslip weekly.)
Thank you.

I have a question.
I work in a utility position at Tomprice and Paraburdu
Is the second working holiday possible?

Hi, thank you for all the information, its helpful. But I still have some questions to ask.

I am now working for 3 restaurants in eligible area.
Employer A – 4 hours per day and 3 days per week; casual
Employer B – 5-12 hours per day and 3-4 days per week; casual
Employer C – 4-6 hours per day and 2 days per week ; casual

For employer A, payslip stated 12 hours per week, can I count 0.5 day for each working day towards that 88 days? So should be 1.5 days per week
If I worked for employer A (4 hours) and B (5 hours) same day can I count as 1 day?
Is it ok if I provide payslip for 3 employers for the same period? Will it be all counted?
Or I could just add up the total hours from all the jobs and divided by 8 (40 hours/5) to get the working days?

Thank you! Really appreciated

Hi,

We’re working at a strawberry farm employed on a casual basis. We work 5/6 days a week but the hours vary depending on the crops. 2 days a week the company have half days. We’re really confused as to how to count our days, whether it’s by day or by reaching a certain amount of hours per week.

Any help would be appreciated!

hey, ive worked 56 days accounting for 473.75 hours over 93 days building fences in a rural area. I have the 417 working holiday visa and am trying to get my second one approved. Do i have enough to qualify?? Thanks for your help.

Hi, I was in Australia in 2018 for 5 months and did 60 days ‘farm work’ but had to return home to the UK due to family issues. I am now looking to go to Australia again with my partner (who hasn’t had a Visa before) ideally on working holiday visas. Is there no change that a second working holiday visa would be issued in this circumstance? Thanks!

Hello, my name is Jordi.

I have a question. Imagine i have done my 88 work days. How i make them count for the second visa? Do i have to save the contracts or go to any web site and notify the work i have done? Or the australian government already keeps track of what i have done?

Hi, my name is Andrea.

I have a question, I tried to find the right answer on web without success and maybe you can help me
I worked in a remote area in hospitality, but my employer couldn’t give me 38 hours per week, so I found a second job even in hospitality and I did over 60 hours per week.
When I will apply for the 2nd whv can I use the payslips of both the workplaces? Do they count the som of that hours per week? Thanks in advance

Hello, I work in a ginger farm in Eumundi in the sunshine coast, I would like to know 1 day is equivalent to how many hours?
I would like to know how much time I have left to complete my 88 days of visa to organize the rest of my trip. Thanks in advance

Hi, I’m working in a banana farm. I work 6-8 hours a day but only 4 days a week. My weekly payslips only mention the amount of hours, not amount of days worked. I’ve worked 8 weeks in total but only 34 actual working days.

May I know how I can calculate my 88 days? I’m on a 462 visa if that helps.

Thanks!

Hello !

Great website, thanks for all the infos !!
I’ve just got a question that you may be able to answer

We are working in a berry farm, we are piecerates but our employer is calculating our payslips with the minimum wage (horticulture award casual : 26.73$) + bonus (2$ per punnets) when we reach the objective (10 punnets/hour). So for example if we work 7 hours and we’ve done 90 punnets then we get paid 26.73×7(hours)+20(punnets)×2$(bonus) = 227,11 $ (so like 32,44$/hour).
But if we are doing only 60 punnets one day, then we just get paid the minimum wages. How to count that for the 88 days ?

Is this kind of payment really considerate as piecerate? Should we count each day worked as one day that count towards the 88days (even if we only work 5 hours) ? And if we only work 5 days, can we count the week ends and count 7 days on a piecerates contract? Or only the day worked counts for the 88 days ?

And/or do we need to get at least 38h per week to count 7 days ?

Thanks a lot, I hope my question is clear
Manon

Hi again,

Thank you to replying to my comment! There are about 2 weeks where I worked Monday to Friday instead of Monday to Thursday. For those 2 weeks, can I count them as 7 days?

Thanks again 🙂

Hello,
Hoping you can help!!

If I start my job on the 16th January and worked 40 hours over five days a week would my 3 months/88 days be complete on the 14th April or 18th May?

Thank you for your help! ☺️

Hello, I have a question about the industry standards and hours of work per day.

I’m currently working at a cafe in Darwin and our shifts seem to average 6 hours a day, not 7 or 8 in accordance to your article. Would my work then not be counted toward the 88 days in this case?

Thank you in advance for your input.

Hello,

I am turning 31 in late august, but i got working holiday visa and it exprie on 12th august, but i have to go to Australia in end of May, but i just want to say if it safe for my to apply second year after i done 88 days, and it may be aged 31.
thanks

Hi my name is Chiara

I work in a remote area in far north Queensland in hospitality.
My employer couldn’t give me 38h per week so I found a second job as well in hospitality and I do my 45h weekly.
My first employer give me the payslip fortnightly and my second employer give me the payslip weekly.
When I will apply for the 2nd WHV I know can I use both payslip but will be a problem to be paid in two different ways?
Would be better to ask a one of my employer to change the tipe of payment??
Thank in advance

Chiara

Hi!

so I have a job offer in a regional area for specified work. I would be on a 14 days on and 14 days off roster. The payrate is fornightly, meaning, I will get paid for the first fortnight, but not for the second one. Will it count as 28 days, assuming I am working enough hours? Or do I have to make them pay me monthly?

Hi!

I work on a full time, 5 day a week contract at 36 hours a week.

However, because we are expected to work 8 hours a day they allow us to take 1 day off every 4 weeks.

Will the week where I take the leisure day off still count as 7 days or only as 4?

Thanks

Hi, I work in hospitality in Cairns. I get 36 hours a week (5 days of work).
I do 4x 9-5 and 1x 9-1 shifts weekly
Do I count this as 5 days or 7?

Bonjour,

J’aimerai valider mes 88 jours dans la construction ( WHV 417 ).

Sur le site du gouvernement il est écrit que la construction est éligible mais cela dépend du travail et du code postal.

J’aimerai juste être sûr que cela marche avec toutes les sociétés ?
Imaginons que je travail dans la peinture pour immeuble et à Noosa ( normalement les 2 critères sont éligible ), je peux postuler dans toutes les sociétés ? Ou certaines sociétés ne sont pas éligible ?

Merci pour votre aide et bonne journée.

Hi i have started working in Construction and u am on A BN is that ok

Also on your pay slips do it have to show how many days you worked

Hi
I have two questions first about counting days on the working and holiday visa. Second about pandemic visa 408.
1. I worked on the farm 3 months. For 9 weeks I worked between 45-55 hours a week. the rest of the payslips were between 22.5 -30 hours. I calculated hours and the average will be 40 hours. I have causal contract and immigration require full time contract work hours . The fair work website say that you can average hours. So for example 1 week you can make 46 hours another 30 Immigration so the average is 38 per week what include full time contract hours . Immigration say also that you can count the day if you worked minimum 5.5 hours a day. I interpreted it that if you worked 5.5 hours a day then you multiply it for 5 it is equal 27.5 hours a week to have count 7 days if in another weeks of work you had more like 38h and then the average of the weeks is minimum 38 hours.
So in that case I can’t count 22.5 hours a week even I worked for this employer 3 month and the average hours is 40 hours? I hope you can help me answer for this questions cause was sure you know more real cases when visa was rejected and when not.
2. I see that covid pandemic visa is still available for people who arrived to Australia after 21 of February and have working rights. The immigration say that you need to have proof of employment in economy sector.
“This temporary visa lets you stay in Australia to work if you are employed or have an offer of employment in any sector of the economy”
As I know economy sector include construction work right?
They do not say nothing about critical sector in this visa

Hi, if I am working two jobs simultaneously that are both eligible for my 88 days, and for example in one week I work 3 days at one job and 2 at another, would that count as 7 days or only as 5? Thanks!

Hi there, I am wondering if you are able to count annual leave hours towards your days as they were included in one of my payslips? Thanks very much.

Hi, if I done my 88 days farm work whoofing back in 2014 but I no longer have the documents due to it being so long ago can I apply now for a second year visa ?

Hi!
Me and my boyfriend are working in an egg farm and we do about 35 hours (5 days) per week. They told us that although we don’t do 35 hours it can be counted like 7 days because there are no more work after 2 pm, it can be real? Thank you!

Hello there!
On the official website it says that secondary food processing is not eligible for a second year visa.
Does that mean butchery in Tassie is? Because it is first hand processing and Tassie is declared as a remote area.

Thank you for your help

Hi,

My partner and I have been offered jobs on a mining site in Perth, however it is FIFO (3 weeks on, 1 week off) which makes me anxious regarding our 88 day visa requirements.

I have heard that 3 weeks on, 1 week off in mining industry may count as 4 weeks (28 days) – is this correct?

Also, my role is a mix of admin and driving machinery. I believe admin doesn’t count – is this correct?

Thanks in advance

Hello,

I will be doing my 88 days in hospitality working in a kid’s club. Because it is low season I will be working about 6.5 hours per day, 5 days a week, which will add up to a total of 32 hours per week.

Will this be able to count as a full week, i.e. 7 days for my visa ?

Thanks,
Laura

Hello !
I applied for a working holiday visa (417) in august 2022. I started it when I arrived in Australia on the 15th of October 2022. Since that day I’ve been volunteering in a farm 21 hours per week (3 days of 7 hours). This farm is registered as a working holiday visa provider and is located in a flood recovery area. Considering that I’ve been volunteering on this farm for 6 months, 21 hours a week. Would it work if I apply to extend my working holiday visa to the second year or not?

Hello!

If your payslip is for two weeks but you only got 7.5 hrs work due to weather conditions, which is counted for the second 417 visa?

Do you have to have an average of 38 hrs per week over the 88 days?

Hello again!

Another question. If you apply for the second holiday visa and it is refused on the basis of not enough days / hrs, can you continue to work on the farm and reapply again or do you just get one opportunity?

Thank you.

Hello, I’ve been working in FIFO as a general hand in remote WA on a 8:6 swing 12 hour days. I am working through an agency (Hays) and assigned to work for the village management (Sodexo) as a causal with no formal contract with the village management company. My. pay slips and contract from the agency state hospitality.
My questions are:
Is my role eligible for the specified work requirement as hospitality in remote areas?
Does my R&R days count towards my total 88 days?

Hello!

If I complete my 88 days within the first year and continue the job for another 3 months, can those extra months be counted towards my 3rd year visa? Or do you need to complete the whole 6 months within the 2nd year visa to be eligible for a 3rd? I can’t seem to find the answer anywhere!

Thank you!

Hi, I got a job with a Civil Construction Company as site Administrator. The job is located in Newcastle West, NSW, 2287. This postcode is covered under flood recovery. How do I double check this work covers my regional work.

Relating to comment above. The job is working on a waste Management Facility site. This includes drainage works, Bulk Earthworks, Detailed Eartworks and completing a new Leachate Pond in Newcastle West, NSW, 2287.

Does this work meet the criteria for completing my 88days Regional?

Hi is the chicken factory elegible to renovate the visa? and if if work 4 days in a week for a total of 37 hours is it counted like a full week?
I don’t find the chicken farm/factory standard

Hello:)
I work in hospitality in an accomodation for miners in northern queensland ( postcode is eligible for the 88 days for hospitality). I work 14 days, 7 days off, 10 hours per day.
So first I wanted to know, if the job is eligible and how I can calculate the days.
Thank you so much in forward for your answer 🙂

Hey I’m working on a farm but it’s cash in hand. Is there a way to prove my 88 days work without payslips or is that not possible thank you

Hi there!

I’ve just started a casual job working at a Pizza/Kebab Restaurant in Cairns for 5-6 days a week. My hours vary, but I work anywhere from 25 – 30+ hours a week and I’m a little confused how to count this towards my 88 days.
If I work 35 hours or over, can I count that week as 7 days? And if I work 25-29 hours, would that qualify as 4 or 5 days? Thanks for the help!

Hey,

I’ve been reading all the comments and I’m a little confused about all this talk about hours regarding casual/part-time hospitality work for my 88 days. Am I generally understanding this right?

18-24 hours in a week = 3 days
25-29 hours in a week = 4 days
30-34 hours in a week = 5 days
35+ hours in a week = 7 days (or is that only if you’re actually contracted full time? If you’re casual what does that mean?)

Thank you so much for your help!

Hello, thank you very much for this helpful information.

I am working for a company that fixes flood/fire damaged properties in the Bundaberg/surrounding areas.
I have checked and this counts as regional work.

However, some weeks are busier than others depending on how big the jobs are.
1st week = 8 hours
2nd week = 29.5 hours
3rd week = 16.5 hours
4th week = 22 hours
5th week = 8 hours
6th week = 43 hours
7th week = 22.5 hours
8th week = 11.5 hours
9th week = 25.5 hours

If the industry standard day is 7 hours and week 9 is 25.5 hours, does this just count as 3 days worked and the extra 4.5 hours are useless?
Or can they be carried over?
Or do they count as a day?

Thanks again for your help, very much appreciate it.

Hi, I’m working in a dairy farm (casual fortnightly), I have some questions, I’m working more than 35 hr per week, it’s counts as 7 days or 5? And last question on my firs paylist I worked 38 hours that time counts 7 days?
Thanks a los

It seems like my question is a bit tricky because my boss asked me how he can sign me up for the 88 days. His hotel is in a remote town, WA 6361, and he is willing to offer me more than 35 hours of work per week. However, he needs to know which department he should apply to, what preparations are needed, or where he should seek advice on how to prepare the relevant documents to apply for eligibility to sign people up for the 88 days.

Hello, does working as a painter in the postcode 6390 count towards 88days (417 visa)

Hi!

If I have worked in Cairns (or any remote area) for a company which its headquarters are in Melbourne, does it still count for the 88 days? How do they know the postcode as in my payslips it doesn’t say it?

Thanks in advance!!

Hi

I have been working in construction in Cairns since week commencing 24th May and currently have 10 payslips showing a 7 day time period on each although the hours I have been paid vary in total each week.

How do I calculate my 88 days please

Hello,

I work casual on contract. The contract is very abstract. It does not say exactly how many hours a week I will work at least (only that it will be maximum 38 h per week) and until when my contract goes (9-12 weeks).

There are 3 different shifts a day. My employer sometimes gives me shifts 4 hours a day (one shift) and sometimes 3 shifts a day (11.5 hours).

This week they only wanted to give me 4 work days in which I am employed for a total of 38 hours. Would this week still count as a full work week or do I absolutely have to work 5 days a week?

Thanks in advance for the answer!

P.S. I work in hospitality in Darwin.

Hello,i work in a abattoir 5 days per week,i work sometime 30 h per week,is that count 7 days?

Hi bestie
I read comments but there were too many so I am not sure if this question is asked yet,
But I worked 3.5hours as a trial for one day last week.
can I count it as one day out of 179 days?
Or it’s just nothing cause it’s not 7 hours.
Or do I need to do (179*24hours-3.5hours) calculation in this situation?
I am asking this cause I have exactly 6.5 months left to start my 88 days so I am desperate

Hi Guys,

Any idea if working as a First Aid instructor in a regional area would be counted? It’s on the job shortage list but I don’t have the required amount of experience to be sponsored just yet

Hi,

My partner and I (both Brits) arrived in Australia at the end of February and we are currently doing our 88 days in rural WA, which will be completed by the end of November 2023. Under the new agreement will we still have to complete a 6 month stint next year to qualify for the 3rd year visa?

Hi there,

I wanted to ask if a labourer on a poultry farm would qualify towards my 88 days? Even with the info on the website it can be so confusing! Cheers in advance!

Hi I’ve did 13 weeks regional work and in every week I’ve did more than 40 hours each week, I’m a plumber doing plumbing work in regional areas, would I have completed my 88 days by now? Does doing more than 38 hours a week count as 7 days? Thanks

Hi!

My partner and I are both British and are set to arrive in Aus in November, both on working holiday visas.

To get our second year visa, will we need to complete the 88 days? Or will we simply qualify for the 2nd year without the 88 days because we will be reapplying after July 2024?

Thanks so much!
Eve

Hello everyone ! I’m currently on a WHV 417, and working hospitality in regional Australia in a restaurent. Unfortunatly they can only offer me 25 hours of work/week, so i found a 2nd job in a fast food in order to get over 35h of work per week. Does combining the hours of 2 jobs with over 35h/week will count as 7 days of eligible work in a week ? Thanks in advance !

Hi, I’ve been working a 2&1 swing 12 hour shifts on a mine in regional WA, will my scheduled weeks off count towards my 88 days? Cheers

Hello,

I work casual in hospitality and the industry standard says 38h a week. My hours fluctuate depending on how busy it is. Sometimes I do 30 hours and sometimes I do 40 hours. But in average it’s about 35 hours a week.

I work 6 days a week but the shifts are quite short (4-6 hours), but in my payslip, you can only see the total hours worked, not the days. Can I count those 30-hour weeks as 7 days instead of 5, given the fact that on average i work around 35h a week, even though the industry standard is 38?

Hi I work casual in hospitality and some weeks I do 34/35h and some weeks 38h. Can I still count every week as a full 7 day work week or only the ones where I did strictly over 38h?

Hi! I’m wondering if my farm work still can be counted for 88 days by being paid through ABN not TFN? Thanks

Hi! I have a question about the way my employer pays me. Is it ok to sign off 88 days if they pay me through ABN but not TFN?
Thanks

Hello,

I have a specific questions regarding the 88 days & leave days due to illness (WorkCover).

I do know that quote from the government’s website “Australian public holidays and sick days (or equivalent worker’s compensation leave days) can be counted as a day of specified work if you are paid for that day.” but I’d like to get a confirmation from you since you seem to know very well about that subject.

I am working on a farm in order to get my 88 days sorted. I injured my hand and I have been receiving compensations from my employer’s insurance: 1045$ gross per week which represents 36h of work since my hourly is 28.5$. I am receiving payslips where we can see I have a compensation but 0 hours worked obviously. Can I count 7 days for the 88 days per compensated week ?

Thanks a lot,

Cheers Matt

Hello!

Five years ago, I worked as a blackberry picker in Tasmania Costa inc. At that time I worded on contract rate. So the number of hours worked is not specified on my payslip. Instead of hour, Base hour of 38 is specified. I have a total of 13 payslips. But Two payslips worked for only one or two days. Because of weather issue. I would like to know if such payslip that include short-term work can be considered as valid payslip when applying for the Second Working Holiday Visa.

Thank you!

Hey there,

thanks a lot for all the information!

I’m right now applying for my 2nd year visa and I’m unsure what to fill in for the total days worked. In the explanation they say “Provide the total number of days actually worked, including leave days for which you were paid.”

Which is quite confusing now.
I got payed for 38 hours each week for 13 weeks in total plus extra 2 days before and 6 days afterwards.
So do I calculate the days for the 38 hours/ counting as 7 days or for the actual 5 days per week that I worked?
Because if I calculate for the 5 days it’ll be less than 88 days and if I calculate for 38h/7 days it’ll be around 100.

If you have any idea, also where to look it up, I’d be super grateful:)

Hi I am working as an accountant for tourism and hospitality in a regional code area. does this count as my 88 days.? thanks